coolstonesa
03-28 12:13 PM
Looks like you forgot the intense pain of what you claim to be "agonizing 5 years" in no time. If DOL were so particular in doing things on time and keeping up their promises then it wouldn't have taken 5 years for your labor to clear. With all due respect, please stop telling us about DOL deadline...it holds no ground.
We understand Immigration Reform Bills being discussed currently and the need to focus on them...however, only thing we (BEC victims) are trying to put across is that if someone from IV does get the opportunity to speak infront of the congress, please don't forget to highlight the BEC mess (PBEC in particular). Labor certification backlog is one big part of the whole broken immigration system. It can not be isolated. Even if it is administrative problem we need the lawmakers attention to get it fixed.
Ladies & Gentlemen
I can understand the emotion and commotion among my fellow beings who are stuck with BECs. I waited agonizing 5 years to get my labor cleared. We all clearly understand what are you guys going through.
But the thing is that Labor Certification issues are taken care with PERM implementation. Also the administration set up 2 BECs to take care of them back logs. Now the issue is purely administrative and not law making. Also BECs made it clear that by Oct 2007 all the back logs will be cleared.
Right now big things are happening in the immigration law making. So I think we should concentrate to get the best out of it and achieve our goals on the Green Card Visa issues. As Tom Tancredo is going to fight with teeth and nail against Immi Bills, we have to do the same.
There are many others issues we can lobby for such as
1) Starting H1B stamping inside the US again( Which was stopped in 2005)
2) Allow H1B spouses to work. etc etc
But I believe our priority for the time being should be Retrogression. I request all of you to use this thread for finding a person to testify.
thanks
babu.
We understand Immigration Reform Bills being discussed currently and the need to focus on them...however, only thing we (BEC victims) are trying to put across is that if someone from IV does get the opportunity to speak infront of the congress, please don't forget to highlight the BEC mess (PBEC in particular). Labor certification backlog is one big part of the whole broken immigration system. It can not be isolated. Even if it is administrative problem we need the lawmakers attention to get it fixed.
Ladies & Gentlemen
I can understand the emotion and commotion among my fellow beings who are stuck with BECs. I waited agonizing 5 years to get my labor cleared. We all clearly understand what are you guys going through.
But the thing is that Labor Certification issues are taken care with PERM implementation. Also the administration set up 2 BECs to take care of them back logs. Now the issue is purely administrative and not law making. Also BECs made it clear that by Oct 2007 all the back logs will be cleared.
Right now big things are happening in the immigration law making. So I think we should concentrate to get the best out of it and achieve our goals on the Green Card Visa issues. As Tom Tancredo is going to fight with teeth and nail against Immi Bills, we have to do the same.
There are many others issues we can lobby for such as
1) Starting H1B stamping inside the US again( Which was stopped in 2005)
2) Allow H1B spouses to work. etc etc
But I believe our priority for the time being should be Retrogression. I request all of you to use this thread for finding a person to testify.
thanks
babu.
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neamoni
05-21 12:50 PM
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=NSC
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
My Firefox shows the APril but IE shows the May. Try deleting the cookies, temp files, cache, etc.
I did all that but still show April 15. :(
Could somebody tell me what's the date for I140 @ NSC?
Thanks!
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
My Firefox shows the APril but IE shows the May. Try deleting the cookies, temp files, cache, etc.
I did all that but still show April 15. :(
Could somebody tell me what's the date for I140 @ NSC?
Thanks!
Hassan11
02-09 08:31 AM
I filed an apeal for my first PERM too and preparing to file another one (through another company - you can't file another PERM via the same company while your first PERM is in appeal). Your's is there for longer than mine. I heard 4 to 6 months would be the time. Please let us know when and how yours is resolved.
Styrum: Why did you file an appeal on your first perm and why are you planning to file another appeal? Maybe I am not understanding something here. was your first LC denied? (on what ground?) why your second LC denied?? Please explain. it seems that we are on the same boat but my appeal have been there longer (now over 6 months)
does anybody here has any idea how long the appeal on the LC decision takes?? any information will be greatly appreciated.
Styrum: Why did you file an appeal on your first perm and why are you planning to file another appeal? Maybe I am not understanding something here. was your first LC denied? (on what ground?) why your second LC denied?? Please explain. it seems that we are on the same boat but my appeal have been there longer (now over 6 months)
does anybody here has any idea how long the appeal on the LC decision takes?? any information will be greatly appreciated.
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Almond
01-02 07:47 PM
Thanks Almond. At this point, I am hoping USCIS will at least allow me to change jobs (remember - I am on 7th year H1b - approved I-140, did not apply for I-485 due to retro). some members here said this is possible and some other members said I cannot do this. so I am confused if I can do this or not. If at all USCIS lets me do this, it would be great if I can find a new employer who can do EB-2. I am praying to God to help me while I try this route. I am not asking too much here... am I ?
No, not at all. It's perfectly normal to want to advance in life and to want to move on to better things. I think the best thing to do right now would be to go for a consultation with an immigration lawyer. Or, if you cannot afford it maybe you can schedule an InfoPass appointment and ask the rep there what your options are. But I'd say a lawyer would be the best option.
No, not at all. It's perfectly normal to want to advance in life and to want to move on to better things. I think the best thing to do right now would be to go for a consultation with an immigration lawyer. Or, if you cannot afford it maybe you can schedule an InfoPass appointment and ask the rep there what your options are. But I'd say a lawyer would be the best option.
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02-28 12:27 AM
I am setting up for the transfer of my second contribution...
ronhira
06-03 10:27 AM
just becoz u'r kid is not good in spellings.... it doesn't make it mandatory for some folks to be jealous in demeaning way...... maybe you feel bad that a 10 year old has better english vocabulary than you at 40..... whatever it is.... u'r not always in competition with u'r surroundings........ grow up and appreciate the effort & dedication that breaks human limits..... even if it is a 10 or 12 yr old.....
software can write software too...... then y do we need programmers.... y do we need eb2 and eb3?
y do we have 100m race if we have cars? y do we have swimming contest if we have boats & ships that can go lot faster....
have an appreciation for things around u..... just becoz u'r not good at something..... or just becoz u don't think its important to u..... it doesn't mean that it doesn't have any meaning...... there is lot more to this competition that meets the eye..... u'll value it only if you open u'r eyes and make an effort to see.....
software can write software too...... then y do we need programmers.... y do we need eb2 and eb3?
y do we have 100m race if we have cars? y do we have swimming contest if we have boats & ships that can go lot faster....
have an appreciation for things around u..... just becoz u'r not good at something..... or just becoz u don't think its important to u..... it doesn't mean that it doesn't have any meaning...... there is lot more to this competition that meets the eye..... u'll value it only if you open u'r eyes and make an effort to see.....
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trueguy
09-22 02:00 PM
Scheduled for tomorrow:
09/23/2008
Full Committee
1:00 P.M. in 2141 Rayburn House Office Building
Continued Committee Markup of: H.R. 6598, H.R. 5882, H.R. 5924, H.R. 5950, and
To consider: a resolution and report recommending to the Hous of Representatives that Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey be cited for contempt of Congress
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
09/23/2008
Full Committee
1:00 P.M. in 2141 Rayburn House Office Building
Continued Committee Markup of: H.R. 6598, H.R. 5882, H.R. 5924, H.R. 5950, and
To consider: a resolution and report recommending to the Hous of Representatives that Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey be cited for contempt of Congress
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
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eb3India
04-08 03:09 PM
Going back might be a good call. But the truth is, no matter how much money you got, how secured you are, the bottom-line is that the call has to come from the individual.
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could people like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don�t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that�s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question like in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
I think I know you, sorry I am kidding :), cuz pretty much everyone's story is very similar to yours, I tend to agree with you, but itz not that bad, infact I would itz a good gamble if you return now you will be going to emerging market and you might endup making most of it, About bribe and corruption if you study the history it was created out of bad politics and system as things are changing with better system it will be reversed, you will never have political system with out corruption atleast there none exist on face of the earth, I am positive about India and itz growth,
Main issue for me is CHANGE, when I came I was just alone young with lots of hope, now I am an old man with family, however I brought a house back in India and couple of sites which are giving me good returns, so I do have plan B
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could people like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don�t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that�s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question like in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
I think I know you, sorry I am kidding :), cuz pretty much everyone's story is very similar to yours, I tend to agree with you, but itz not that bad, infact I would itz a good gamble if you return now you will be going to emerging market and you might endup making most of it, About bribe and corruption if you study the history it was created out of bad politics and system as things are changing with better system it will be reversed, you will never have political system with out corruption atleast there none exist on face of the earth, I am positive about India and itz growth,
Main issue for me is CHANGE, when I came I was just alone young with lots of hope, now I am an old man with family, however I brought a house back in India and couple of sites which are giving me good returns, so I do have plan B
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GooblyWoobly
09-14 07:10 PM
here's my explanation why i think retrogression will get worse -
1) USCIS still has not entered all the july and aug. filers. USCIS will have a good idea by Oct or Nov. how many applications are in the pipeline, how many they can approve and what the PD cut off date needs to be?
You are just repeating yourself. Show me the logic why entering all apps will retrogress the PD?
Let me give a concrete example. For India EB2, why would the PD not move from, say, April 2004 to January 2005, even if, say, 20 million people with priority date at 2006 apply for I485?
Understand the procedure first. With a better idea of applications in pipeline, you will see the PD movement to be better predicted, not retrogression.
2) with the number of applications that were filed this it is obvious that ROW will see retrogression in both EB2 and EB3 categories.
Why is it obvious? Show me the logic man!! Instead of just stating it. If ROW was current till now on some category, everybody who were supposed to file would have filed. Why would it get retrogressed. You understand that only the unused ROW numbers trickle over ot India/China etc.
So, you are saying you don't have a logic. You are speculating and saying only time will prove you right? Eh?
1) USCIS still has not entered all the july and aug. filers. USCIS will have a good idea by Oct or Nov. how many applications are in the pipeline, how many they can approve and what the PD cut off date needs to be?
You are just repeating yourself. Show me the logic why entering all apps will retrogress the PD?
Let me give a concrete example. For India EB2, why would the PD not move from, say, April 2004 to January 2005, even if, say, 20 million people with priority date at 2006 apply for I485?
Understand the procedure first. With a better idea of applications in pipeline, you will see the PD movement to be better predicted, not retrogression.
2) with the number of applications that were filed this it is obvious that ROW will see retrogression in both EB2 and EB3 categories.
Why is it obvious? Show me the logic man!! Instead of just stating it. If ROW was current till now on some category, everybody who were supposed to file would have filed. Why would it get retrogressed. You understand that only the unused ROW numbers trickle over ot India/China etc.
So, you are saying you don't have a logic. You are speculating and saying only time will prove you right? Eh?
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gc_coming
09-23 08:22 PM
Hi Gurus,
I am in a unique situation and your valuable advice is highly appreciated. I worked for company A for 3 years and filed my 140 and 485(july 2007). I quit the company in may this year and joined another company. My 140 was approved on 06/16/2006. recently my previous employer revoked my I-140. I got a notice from USCIS that my I-140 and I-485 has been withdrawn. As per my new attorney since i meet all the conditions for job porting (180 days, 140 approved, and same job profile), no one else other than me can withdraw my I-485 application. my attorney filed an MTR today. Can i work while my MTR is pending. Is Withdrawal acknowledgement notice is same as denial notice ? please help
I am in a unique situation and your valuable advice is highly appreciated. I worked for company A for 3 years and filed my 140 and 485(july 2007). I quit the company in may this year and joined another company. My 140 was approved on 06/16/2006. recently my previous employer revoked my I-140. I got a notice from USCIS that my I-140 and I-485 has been withdrawn. As per my new attorney since i meet all the conditions for job porting (180 days, 140 approved, and same job profile), no one else other than me can withdraw my I-485 application. my attorney filed an MTR today. Can i work while my MTR is pending. Is Withdrawal acknowledgement notice is same as denial notice ? please help
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h1bmajdoor
04-29 09:23 AM
in my humble opinion, we will never find justice and fairness here.
the reason why we will not find justice is that our suffering is creating profits for the people with power and who vote.
your freedom is reduction in their profits. exactly the slave-master thinking. they will try their best to delay your freedom.
at my last employer (a large, respectable financial firm), they kept saying "GC next year" till they said "GC last months of 5th year". I was just a few months from that time, but i quit them in disgust anyway. doing GC with them would have meant another 5-6 years with those creeps.
this is classic zero-sum thinking. you'll see it everywhere in the US. you just have to be sharper at seeing politics. only you can protect your interests.
my advice to IV is to associate with some labour union. those guys are corrupt, but at least they have some power.
the reason why we will not find justice is that our suffering is creating profits for the people with power and who vote.
your freedom is reduction in their profits. exactly the slave-master thinking. they will try their best to delay your freedom.
at my last employer (a large, respectable financial firm), they kept saying "GC next year" till they said "GC last months of 5th year". I was just a few months from that time, but i quit them in disgust anyway. doing GC with them would have meant another 5-6 years with those creeps.
this is classic zero-sum thinking. you'll see it everywhere in the US. you just have to be sharper at seeing politics. only you can protect your interests.
my advice to IV is to associate with some labour union. those guys are corrupt, but at least they have some power.
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pappu
10-12 02:29 PM
what a great resource - wonder why you did not post this before.
all local media will be flooded with my emails :)
Thanks nycgal369
This resource and other resources were listed in the thread http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=694&page=6
'ideas to increase publicity' but only few members took active interest and participated.
Now that we have you, i am sure you would help in this effort by sending out emails yourself and also other members can join you to contact media. I wish we can all send multiple emails to every newspaper, every tv station and radio station in this country and apprise them of our cause. such letters urging news orgs to cover our issue will help us get much needed media attention and then something will DEFNITELY happen in the coming months.
all local media will be flooded with my emails :)
Thanks nycgal369
This resource and other resources were listed in the thread http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=694&page=6
'ideas to increase publicity' but only few members took active interest and participated.
Now that we have you, i am sure you would help in this effort by sending out emails yourself and also other members can join you to contact media. I wish we can all send multiple emails to every newspaper, every tv station and radio station in this country and apprise them of our cause. such letters urging news orgs to cover our issue will help us get much needed media attention and then something will DEFNITELY happen in the coming months.
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08-27 01:08 PM
Mine is EB2 APR'04 if interfiling work ?.:confused:
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GCtogo
09-24 01:42 PM
Hello Gurus,
I am also in the same situation. Last week, My desi employer gave me a deadline to find a project after which he will lay me off. On the same day my concurrently filed I-140(July 07 filed) was approved. I have also applied for EAD renewal. My approved H-1B petition has two more years. Now I am focussed more on finding a full time position. If I get one, should I ask the new company to transfer my H-1B visa or should I be using the EAD once I get it? What do you Gurus recommend? Any information on this will be really helpful for me in making up my mind.
My details:
PD: May 30th, 2006
EB2 India
Thanks
I am also in the same situation. Last week, My desi employer gave me a deadline to find a project after which he will lay me off. On the same day my concurrently filed I-140(July 07 filed) was approved. I have also applied for EAD renewal. My approved H-1B petition has two more years. Now I am focussed more on finding a full time position. If I get one, should I ask the new company to transfer my H-1B visa or should I be using the EAD once I get it? What do you Gurus recommend? Any information on this will be really helpful for me in making up my mind.
My details:
PD: May 30th, 2006
EB2 India
Thanks
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psk79
06-23 01:13 PM
Well, there are many folks here including me who filed around first week of june.. I haven't heard anyone getting the EAD yet. I haven't seen any lud's after the receipts. Hopefully, one more week to go and then we are all good to get the 2yr EAD....
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akhilmahajan
08-22 04:47 PM
Can someone please post the updates if their cases approved. Only the ones whose cases have been pending for more than 60 days. Thank you.
Current EAD expiring September 3rd week.
Efiled on May 29th at TSC. FP done on June 28th.
Card Production Ordered August 18th (81st day).
Cards Received August 22nd (85th Day).
Validity 2 Years.
Let me know if you have any questions.
GO IV GO.
Current EAD expiring September 3rd week.
Efiled on May 29th at TSC. FP done on June 28th.
Card Production Ordered August 18th (81st day).
Cards Received August 22nd (85th Day).
Validity 2 Years.
Let me know if you have any questions.
GO IV GO.
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ramus
06-28 05:13 PM
If 140 is approved and dates are current most likely you will get one year extension...But sure you will get H1B extension.
I think its If pending...and labor approved 365 days before start date. I still need to check with my attorney. Also even if 140 is approved and dates are current i would not be able to extend.
I think its If pending...and labor approved 365 days before start date. I still need to check with my attorney. Also even if 140 is approved and dates are current i would not be able to extend.
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kshitijnt
06-12 03:25 PM
DA knows that for them to win the case, they need your wife's statement on their side. And for you to win the case your wife will have to testify under oath. The attorneys are prepared on both sides to argue this case and examine and cross examine the case. Make sure you have a really really good attorney.
I hope you are telling the truth. If not why she didnt tell the police or you didnt tell police the real reason. Now the onus is on your wife to contact the police and DA and let them know the truth.
I hope you are telling the truth. If not why she didnt tell the police or you didnt tell police the real reason. Now the onus is on your wife to contact the police and DA and let them know the truth.
sledge_hammer
01-15 01:43 PM
Could it just be because there are a lot of immigrants from that state in India?
The pattern of these killings is so strange that most of the people that got killed are from AP.
My friends from AP, Be careful. They are coming after you :)
The pattern of these killings is so strange that most of the people that got killed are from AP.
My friends from AP, Be careful. They are coming after you :)
poorslumdog
03-19 11:50 AM
Did my post suggest in any way that I was defending the guy? I was only ridiculing those who were bad mouthing him.
Are you suggesting that my post would have scored more points if I came out with more ammunition? I did not post in order to win your accolades. The fact that you felt there is not enough ammunition, suggests to me that you think it is perfectly fine to do all those filthy things I was referring to. This tells me about your moral standard.
You had to assume that I probably have a criminal issue too, and thats why I was defending the original poster? Is that the best your mind can think of?
You are sick and tired of defending our community? Do you imply that most people from our community have turned to criminal acts these days, and so you are tired? Because, I have not seen that around the people that I move around with. Is it all too common in your circles and the people you associate with?
You most probably have half the education that I have, your salary is most likely half that of mine, and your moral standard is probably half that of mine. If I start ridiculing you more, you will suffer sleepless nights. So I won't do it (after this post, I mean).
You don't post bullshit in a public forum, just because you can't see the people you are talking to, infront of you. Would you dare call the original poster 'thief' if he is standing infront of you? Would you call him that, if he is a friend of your roommate and your roommate brings him over to your house? The internet must be a new technology for you. Please learn how to use it to spread some love.
To the poster above you:
It is true that the law does not impose punishments on backstabbers, womanizers, sexual perverts, etc. Prostitution is legal in a lot of countries. The fact that the law permits some things, does not have any bearing on the moral severity or the lack thereof, of those things. Would you choose a 'prostitute' over a 'shop lifter' for a wife? If these are the only 2 options, I would be content with a shop lifter. Would you choose a 'prostitute' because there are no criminal issues involved and you will get your greencard faster?
Even though not many people have posted in support of my post, my reputation has gone up, and yours probably went down. Please don't respond just because you want a revenge.I will always stand up for the one weak guy who is bullied by a 100 really nice & powerful ones. This can't be called defending the act of 'shop lifting' !!!
Ye...we all see your moral standard here.
You reputation has gone up because you are supporting a shoplifter over hook...? wow. Support sex offenders, rapist and drug addict and kidnappers... you would get even more reputation.
Are you suggesting that my post would have scored more points if I came out with more ammunition? I did not post in order to win your accolades. The fact that you felt there is not enough ammunition, suggests to me that you think it is perfectly fine to do all those filthy things I was referring to. This tells me about your moral standard.
You had to assume that I probably have a criminal issue too, and thats why I was defending the original poster? Is that the best your mind can think of?
You are sick and tired of defending our community? Do you imply that most people from our community have turned to criminal acts these days, and so you are tired? Because, I have not seen that around the people that I move around with. Is it all too common in your circles and the people you associate with?
You most probably have half the education that I have, your salary is most likely half that of mine, and your moral standard is probably half that of mine. If I start ridiculing you more, you will suffer sleepless nights. So I won't do it (after this post, I mean).
You don't post bullshit in a public forum, just because you can't see the people you are talking to, infront of you. Would you dare call the original poster 'thief' if he is standing infront of you? Would you call him that, if he is a friend of your roommate and your roommate brings him over to your house? The internet must be a new technology for you. Please learn how to use it to spread some love.
To the poster above you:
It is true that the law does not impose punishments on backstabbers, womanizers, sexual perverts, etc. Prostitution is legal in a lot of countries. The fact that the law permits some things, does not have any bearing on the moral severity or the lack thereof, of those things. Would you choose a 'prostitute' over a 'shop lifter' for a wife? If these are the only 2 options, I would be content with a shop lifter. Would you choose a 'prostitute' because there are no criminal issues involved and you will get your greencard faster?
Even though not many people have posted in support of my post, my reputation has gone up, and yours probably went down. Please don't respond just because you want a revenge.I will always stand up for the one weak guy who is bullied by a 100 really nice & powerful ones. This can't be called defending the act of 'shop lifting' !!!
Ye...we all see your moral standard here.
You reputation has gone up because you are supporting a shoplifter over hook...? wow. Support sex offenders, rapist and drug addict and kidnappers... you would get even more reputation.
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